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Old 06-17-2009, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan And Jennifer View Post
Hmmm... at first it may seem like a good idea to make laws based on what we personally would "like" to see and WHO we would PERSONALLY like to see go naked.

But that wouldn't really be a workable system, would it. This isn't a question of who we'd love to see naked. It's a question of legal discrimination between men and women, based on laws from far more primitive times.



To your point below of "this is not burka-land", I see where you're coming from. You're saying "hey, it's not that bad". and you're right, it's not a massive discrimination against women, only discriminatory in a way that's not terribly awful. Not sure I'm buying the difference though.

On standards of taste, that leaves us with an interesting quandary. Again, we're talking about making laws from preferences not to protect people from others, etc.

The analogy is flawed: a more correct one would be that if men can legally pee in the street, making it illegal for women to do so is discriminatory. THAT is the question - not whether we enjoy watching people pee in the street - but rather the discrimination of allowing men to do it and discriminating against women.

100 years ago it was considered "pornographic" for a woman to show her ankle. And 60 years ago women couldn't vote. This is a question of discrimination, not personal preference, not a beauty contest where only "?Jessica Biel?" can walk around naked... that comparison just clouds the issue.

Please check out the videos that started this thread, you'll see these points articulated in better detail.

fun site by the way - newbie here - saw the article in "Quick" - and I hope y'all did some legal ass-covering regarding the likeness of your "ask" logo to the Ask.com Search Engine - Better Web Search logo

but yes yes I understand the discrimination issue
but but - I contended earlier that I find it hard to imagine that a woman would ever get a ticket or citation for having some tasteful nudity at any place a guy displays tasteful nudity - I've seen it in NYC

and speaking of discrimination -
isn't "women and children first!" discrimination?

I think this women's discrimination thing is a little passe at this point - you won't hear any women complaining sexual discrimination when a man holds the door open for her but let's the door swing into the next guy - "hey that was discrimination against that man mr. discriminating door holder!"

any time a woman sees a man topless <appropriately> I welcome any woman, with open arms, to also be topless, with open arms, open hands, open eyes and open mouth

I mean, I see it a bit more like the african american thing of wearing the pants down to the thighs - ok super, it's a cultural rebellion thing, sure sure, but "a brother's gotta pull his pants up" - Pres.Obama


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and I didn't hyperlink the -ask dot com- link, it did that automatically - I'm not a spammer!!!

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