fetish or gay?

[slittylicker]

This gets very tricky.
I believe that it is different for females.

It is socially acceptable for females to openly kiss one another.
Society supports and condones female to female contact...even for "straight" females. .
Men love to watch 2 females have sex.
Most men would be grossed out by the thought of kissing a man.
Men pay for sex...women sell it.
Women are the producers of both genders. They are the mothers of all people. We all come out of a woman. Women have been inside of a woman...men have not been inside of a man(unless they have gay sex).
Men have to achieve an erection to perform...women don't.

I could go on...there are so many factors.
This is just one of those things that can't be proven yet.
There are so many variables as to why this behavior takes place.

BTW...an opinion is just that...an opinion. It is valid to the one with the opinion. It might be valid to others and it might not. It doesn't matter if anyone else validates it. It's an opinion. Others are entitled to disagree.

Just like a hypotheses...until they are validated by clinical trials.
This would be difficult to validate.
I believe there was a study done where they attached sensors to the penises of homophobic men, then showed them naked pics of women, as well as straight porn and gay porn. The homophobic men got an erection with the gay porn but not with the straight porn.

[Queen Gibbon]

I do not see why it should be different for females. sexuality happens in all humans as is caused by hormones for ALL this is actually proven that hormones in the womb cause gender therefore it is highly possible it causes sexuality to as sex hormone is released into the brain prebirth.
But regardless if cause there is no reason why it should be different for different genders in cause.
It some places it may be more socially acceptable for same sex contact among females. but social approval cannot cause sexuality. lesbianism and gayness happens even in countries where it is punishable by death therefore it happens regardless of social approval.

um many women get turned on by two men together. some prejudiced men are against lesbians. many women are disgusted by same sex female contact. having same sex contact doesn't make women a lesbian so why would it make men necessarily gay?
like i said I am bi but its not different for me as a woman. I was horribly bullied for my sexuality and hated it for many years it is the same for men yet there are many men who stay bi for years and stay loyal to their lovers.

yes an opinion is an opinion but what makes it right? if we just allowed any opinion to influence government chaos ensues as it has done in the past. logic and reason mean better decisions and it is the same with opinions. I can say there are magical unicorns but it does not make it true.
you suggest everything is subjective but even still there is matter of fact. You make have an opinion and it be totally wrong and its far more likely to be wrong if your evidence and justification is poor.
you may have an opinion but that doesn't make you correct it would very well mean you are ignorant such as the illogic of racism. opinion does not make itsekf correct simply by you believing it.

oh also some women pay for sex,
many women are grossed out by the thought of kissing a woman
many women are turned on by two men kissing
women can have sex without arousal but then again wet makes it easier you can have sex with a man without an erection it just has to be anal rape
women produce both genders but they would get very far without male help and scientifically in the womb we all begin as female and after introduction of certain sex hormones male genitalia and traits appear.
a hypothesis can be shown to be unlikely in the face of another more coherent hypothesis science isn't just opinion its investigation and logic not random guessing based on ones own prejudiced feelings.

[Dazed]

Originally Posted by slittylicker

It is socially acceptable for females to openly kiss one another.
Society supports and condones female to female contact...even for "straight" females. .
Men love to watch 2 females have sex.
Most men would be grossed out by the thought of kissing a man.
Men pay for sex...women sell it.
Women are the producers of both genders. They are the mothers of all people. We all come out of a woman. Women have been inside of a woman...men have not been inside of a man(unless they have gay sex).
Men have to achieve an erection to perform...women don't.

You, being 51, either are the oldest man in the dorm or live in a shell on the computer. Take a poll of middle to upper aged persons and see if they think it is acceptable for a girl to kiss another girl. Yes, younger generations may say it is OK, but as a society...a sexually expressed encounter is homosexual or bisexual.

You had mentioned earlier that watching two guys go at a girl is OK, but if their dicks touch it grosses you out? And now you say that if two men kiss it grosses you out. My question is: in the pron you subscribe to, how big ar the girls where the men do not touch?

Women are not the producers of both genders. Alone they can produce nothing. In fact, the man has more say than the woman, as the man produces the Y chromosome to produce a male and the X chromosome to produce a female. The woman is just a carrier after that. Can a woman get pregnant without a man? NO, the sperm is needed.

Finally, women cannot perform if they are not aroused without some sort of lubricant (take precum for example), just the same as a man cannot perform if htey are not aroused without some sort of drug.

Back to the topic, I'd go with bi.

[Queen Gibbon]

Thank you a well reasoned and logical argument.

[kettlekorn]

Does it matter if you're gay/have a fetish? I don't see why it matters what label you put on your behavior. What matters is that you enjoy exploring various aspect of your sexuality and hopefully you are being safe about it.

[hunnyhunny]

after having sex with three males, its positive you are gay, but no worries just get on with your normal life and don't get affected, if you still have intimacy with women, look for a partner so you can get out of that hole.