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Old 09-18-2008, 08:18 PM
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Question Gay Sex A Mental Disorder? Huh? (Video)

Found a very eye-opening video on YouTube, it shows us how the supposedly "scientific community" has often been the "pseudo-moralistic" community mandating what they think "normal" is...

The disorders listed in the APA's, American Psychiatric Association's, Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (the DSM) diagnosed according to behavior criteria. This effectively makes the DSM a moral code or a book of laws.

If you violate these laws, you are labeled as mentally ill and forced into mental health treatment which can include drugs, electroshock therapy or involuntary commitment. As society's morals change, so does the definition of mental illness.

A Homosexual, gay or lesbian sex, was considered mentally ill until 1973. What changed? Is this the truth of science or moral opinion based on religion?
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:18 PM
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Oh what?! I am an ill man then! AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHBBBYYYYYSSSSSS.

Ok. Really. You are a man who might prefer BK over McDonalds, or Pizza over Spaghetti, or Soccer over Football. But to this point you're totally normal. Wait, you prefer men than woman?! Ok, you're a weird confused mentally-ill man. It makes no f*cking sense!!!!

Homosexuality, Transsexuality, Bisexuality, etc.etc.etc are not any mental disorders. The only way this tendencies can turn into mental disorders is when it turns into fanaticism: When you start hurting or killing people to defend your sexual orientation. So, homophobia *is* a mental disorder.

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Who would be considered mentally-ill, then.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:56 PM
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Okay, I'm seriously sick then :P
And I SOOO don't wanna get better.

Voyeurism
In simple terms: Likes to watch others performing certain activities, and gets sexual pleasure from it.

So basically, if watching someone getting changed turns you on, you have a mental disorder. Well, I guess that's two strikes for me (The first one being homosexual tendencies, according to the pentagon).

ADHD
I have most of the symptoms for that, and have had for a LONG time. My first grade teacher said that I should be put on medication, and my mother told her where she could shove her pills.

I'm perfectly happy with my hyper, fidgety self. People like me for my quirks, and that's what being an individual is about.

Pedophilia
So if you are attracted to someone who is not legally an adult you have a mental disorder. A lot of people think pedophiles are sick, and I admit many of them do appear to be that way. Just because you are attracted to someone who is not defined by the legal system as an adult, however, is no indication of mental illness in my thinking. It's a preference, just like it is to be attracted to one gender, the other, or both!

The most common defense for this used is "Well the child doesn't know what they're engaging in." Uhm... I'm 14 (fifteen on october third, woot! ^_^) and I know full-well the implications of sexual intercourse. I know the science of it, I know the symbolism of it, I'm fully ready. Whether I do it with a 24 year old, or a 15 year old I'm still just as knowledgeable about what I'm doing. Chances are, if you're over 12 you have a pretty good idea of what's going on. Not always, but in MANY cases.

(P.S: I'd have no qualms with having sex with someone over 18. So long as I'm sexually attracted to them, I believe my consent is just as good as an 18 year-old's. Sorry Dan and Jenn :P But as the "child prey" I have a different view on the subject when it concerns my own self, because I know that I understand sex)

Sadism
If you like to break out the whip every now and then and bend your lover over and whip his/her ass silly, then you're effing sick. At least, that's what we're told by a group of individuals who happen to feel this way, and have the power to put you in a mental institution for it.

Personally, I love the idea of inflicting mild pain and discomfort on my lover. I don't think I'm mentally ill for having my own kinks, but the conservative groups running things would like to tell us that any fetishes are abnormal.

Homosexuality
Not much I need to say here. The policies were changed (Except in the pentagon... but who the hell cares what a bunch of war mongering old men think?) on this... so that already proves that their little rules and regulations of individuality have been flawed in the past.

How much shall we bet that they still are flawed?
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Old 10-03-2008, 02:12 AM
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Exclamation This brings up a few (not-so) good points...

First off, I do believe that homosexuality is a mental disorder, but I don't mean that in a bad way.

Apparently, being in love, or the act of love is a mental disorder. You are legally insane if you are in love. Scientists have proven this fact.

Your entire body chemistry is changed when you're in love. Different chemicals come out and start mixing with other ones until you've got a nice razzle-dazzle of craziness inside of you.

This brings me to my prevous point on homosexuality being a disorder. You'd be legally insane if you were in love with the same gender anyways. So if you're insane, doesn't that give you the excuse to do things that society finds "socially inacceptable"?

Not to be rude, but I believe homosexuality has to do with body chemistry as well. To be in love in a heterosexual way, your body is wired a certain way and vice versa. Does that make sense?

So, by popular definition, it would be a mental disorder. Next to being in love.

Now that's a laugh. A great deal of the world would be insane if that were the case, wouldn't you think? So really, they have some merrit to what they're saying, but it's not for the right reasons. They don't deserve to be treated any differently than anyone else.

Why not stick the lovers into mental hospitals? Personally, I think that's quite silly.

But I have to say something else quickly.

ADHD is a common thing, am I right? But you have to realise, most people have one or more of those symptoms. Hell, one of them can be implied as "impatience" and another could be implied as "talkativeness".

In the United States, apparently they drugged up an entire kindergarden class because they were all diagnosed with ADHD.

Um... last time I checked, five year old children acted like, well, five year old children. And, of course, five year old children are loud and rambunctious.

And no, I really don't care if I spelled "rambunctious" wrong.

But have they any merrit to diagnosing people with ADHD? I know several people who used to have it... and to me they were just hyper.

But what's wrong with that?

Next thing we know, they're going to start giving us drugs to counterbalance the imbalance in body chemicals for things like love and homosexuality.

What kind of a world would that be?

Not a very good one, that's for sure.
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